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Vera Dane's avatar

I’m extremely skeptical of any therapist who initiates touch. I can’t imagine a circumstance where that’s okay.

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Liz Brown's avatar

You are Right to be skeptical. Your instincts are right on!

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Harry's avatar

This was a very relatable read. I have no atypical experiences from psychotherapists, but I have many other experiences that are similar to yours.

I see how the general public would view this article, it would be more of a racy sexual story between a therapist and a patient.

But I get you. In reality, the therapist was a creep, and you were severely attention deprived. So you mistook sexual advances for care.

I have been in the same place. I got into a similar pattern and ended up addicted to sex.

I see you.

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Liz Brown's avatar

I have never heard someone describe it that way: "You mistook sexual advances for care." I think that's really accurate. Thank you.

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Jason's avatar

But his patient was never a creep.

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Liz Brown's avatar

How do you mean?

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Jason's avatar

Your channel name is a public accusation against your therapist for being a creep, which is liable, if he decided to sue you, but then publically talk about your sex life with a graphic tagline, and somehow escape your own label. I think the irony is thick enough to cut with a knife.

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Liz Brown's avatar

Also the fact that you consider this post to be about “my sex life” tells me all I need to know about your own creepitude

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Jason's avatar

Ill bet you say that about a lot of people you don’t know. I didn’t need to read an article entitled my five day orgasm to know It wasn’t sexual. How silly of me to think it was.

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Liz Brown's avatar

Wait, you didn’t even read it?

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Carrie Poppy's avatar

So if your therapist preying on you is just a version of having a love life, is assault just a version of sex?

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Liz Brown's avatar

Sounds like he’s a friend of yours Jason.

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Jen's avatar

Yeah i keep trying to find where the therapist was creepy but all i am coming up with is limerance from her. If you have to add the word “creep” in front of the word “therapist” over and over and over it sounds like you need to convince yourself and the reader that he’s a creep. Just calling him that does not make it true?

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Liz Brown's avatar

Thanks for asking. The "creepy" part of what the therapist did is the positive response he had to my "limerance". It's a hard and fast rule that therapists are not ever supposed to reciprocate sexual feelings for their patients. I also use the word "creep" here frequently to distinguish him from other therapists I might be talking about. Since he's the main psychotherapist character I refer to him as the "creep psychotherapist." I definitely don't need any additional convincing of his creepiness, but you're right that some people (you) might perceive that he's not creepy at all. You or the creep are both free to write your own substacks about how I'm a "creep patient". It's the beauty of the medium!

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Jen's avatar

Did he reciprocate? I was looking for where he told you he was sexually attracted to you or did something sexual to you, or other such things, but i haven’t been able to find anything? I keep hoping actual creepy stuff actually happened, but only to justify such a public accusation of him. Otherwise I would hope it was all constructed in your head and didn’t happen because that would be easier for you to get past than such a violation of trust from a therapist

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Liz Brown's avatar

Yes i think you haven’t gotten to that part of the story yet

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Carrie Poppy's avatar

And you were never a poet.

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Jason's avatar

Failed poet dear. Now run along with your victim card and vibrator.

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Carrie Poppy's avatar

YO, to be a failed poet you must first try. Show me a bad poem.

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Paige Diako's avatar

This sounds like PGAD

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coffeebits's avatar

This comment section is wild, not in a good way.

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Liz Brown's avatar

I’ve been through worse so I can take it lol

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Opr. Pickingill's avatar

1. This sounds more like hypervigilance than an "orgasm".

2. If all the therapist did in all that time is touch your hand, I'm pretty sure the creep epithet shouldn't be there.

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Liz Brown's avatar

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying about the hypervigilance. There are 10 posts if you'd like to read the rest of the story.

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Opr. Pickingill's avatar

Hypervigilance is when you fixate or become hugely aware of something on a subconscious level.

A benign example would be like buying a bright yellow car or something. Before you owned a yellow car you might think they were rare. After you brought one, you notice them everywhere because your brain is now subconsciously looking out for them.

Hypervigilance is a big part of many mental health disorders. Example: It's common that people with hypochondria or health anxiety might feel like they're having chest pains because they're worried about having a heart attack. They then fixate and analyse every feeling and sensation which only makes it feel more real.

Nobody has orgasms that last days. That's not how it works. You probably over reacted because this guy touched your hand, which is pretty benign and your brain made the subconscious connection with sex. This sounds like Persistent genital arousal disorder or PGAD.

Do you ever get any other worries or bad thoughts that get stuck in your head on repeat?

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Liz Brown's avatar

Thank you for mansplaining my orgasm!!!!

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Liz Brown's avatar

“that’s not how it works” 😂😂😂 Thanks man I was actually there!

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Opr. Pickingill's avatar

You're welcome. I hope you actually try and get help with this stuff rather than posting your delusional clickbait.

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Liz Brown's avatar

Writing my story is helping me get past a pretty terrible time in my life so I'm gonna keep doing it.

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Carrie Poppy's avatar

Yeah but Liz have you considered that PGAD may not have the exact physiological mechanisms that biologists call orgasm? So maybe you should stop writing about your life.

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Carrie Poppy's avatar

So your big ace-in-the-hole here was the "PGAD technically isn't an orgasm" thing?

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Opr. Pickingill's avatar

My ace in the hole is that I'd rather make other people were aware of disorders that are on the OCD spectrum rather than support people making money or getting internet clout from their poor mental health. The latter isn't helping anyone.

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Liz Brown's avatar

Shea where ya been since I posted receipts of my perv psychotherapist????

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